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Post by sooty on Jul 5, 2011 9:23:09 GMT 1
Last year I had a wilting cucumber plant, and managed to revive it, with a little trick that I learn while was a lad working at a large tomato nursery. We always grew a few cucumber plants for ourselves at the end of the greenhouses, and the old boys always had a few tricks up their sleeve. I cant get the direct link to work , so use the link below to go to Mr Tomato Kings Blog <<edit by ali - this link should work...... mr-tomato-king.blogspot.com/2011/07/first-aid-for-wilting-cucumber-plants.html>>
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Post by Madame Moorhen on Jul 5, 2011 11:50:04 GMT 1
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Post by sooty on Jul 5, 2011 12:01:02 GMT 1
They do not wilt if it too hot with a normal root system. However if you do get damage to the root system, by disease or over watering, then you could get a problem, which obviously is worse on hot days.
A problem you can get with growing them outside, is bitter cucumbers, because of temperature variations. Cucumbers, as tomatoes can take a lot more heat than you may think, I grew commercially in plastic covered greenhouse in Portugal and I was amazed at how hot it got.
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Post by Madame Moorhen on Jul 5, 2011 12:19:46 GMT 1
They may like it in a greenhouse but as I wouldn't be going anywhere near it they wouldn't get watered or seen to. I've only had bitter ones once outside which I found odd, as I understand it is the greenhouse long ones which get bitter if you don't take off the male flower (or something like that) and outdoor ones shouldn't be affected cos they are completely different. I'm up the hot dry end of Brittany and temp fluctuations in a greenhouse are not good for tomatoes in my experience, bad enough outside with difference between night and day temps and green collar ..... However each to his own.
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Post by Ali on Jul 5, 2011 12:54:54 GMT 1
Grow my best toms in the greenhouse ......... and cucumbers.............. Only have a few toms outside at the mo coz for the last few years have got mildew/blight or summink on them and they dieded
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Post by oddsox on Sept 3, 2011 9:34:58 GMT 1
Just been trawling through the archives to see what has already been covered and came across this thread. There's some good stuff here.
Know what Madame Moorhen means about too hot in greenhouses, particularly plastic tunnels, which get even hotter than glasshouses, cos I once worked in a nursery and had to water the paths every couple of hours to keep the humidity up.
And we used shade netting so that the heat didn't drive the plants so hard that they couldn't take up water fast enough through their roots, which would cause them to wilt.
Has anyone had that happening in the potager as well? Wilting plants on hot days even when there's plenty of water in the soil?
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Post by ianh on Sept 3, 2011 9:41:54 GMT 1
You do not fool Lib and I oddb'lox - you're just trying to get in with the girls now with your talk of wilting cucumbers.
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Post by oddsox on Sept 3, 2011 9:52:19 GMT 1
Bloody hell Ianh, give a lad a chance. You're way too quick for me!
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Post by Madame Moorhen on Sept 4, 2011 6:26:10 GMT 1
Plenty of wilting in flower beds and in the potager it's usually beetroot and squashes that droop. I wouldn't say there was often 'plenty' of water in my soil though - or when there is, it doesn't combine with hot weather!
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Post by oddsox on Sept 4, 2011 8:10:17 GMT 1
Plenty of wilting in flower beds and in the potager it's usually beetroot and squashes that droop. I wouldn't say there was often 'plenty' of water in my soil though - or when there is, it doesn't combine with hot weather! I think leafy stuff suffers because of water loss through the leaves. Read somewhere that a field of lettuce, a hectare of it, loses 25,000 litres of water each day in hot weather. But do you plant in partial shade? A farmer can't, but we can, and lettuce seem to do better that way.
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