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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 19:58:23 GMT 1
I don't know if I'm on my own with this but isn't it time after 70 years to let go with all this beating of breasts and condemning folk long dead? Yes it was horrific, yes it should never happen again and yes it was as well to remember it for the first 20 years or so. However, it happened 3 generations ago now, with the European union it is unlikely to ever happen again. It gains nothing for the very few survivors left and if it is still affecting their families then, to me, there is something wrong with the families not humanity.
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Post by bisdu on Jan 27, 2015 20:13:15 GMT 1
Can't agree BE - sometimes we just need reminding.
We are happy to celebrate remembrance day for servicemen who died - this is one of the reasons they did, and God only know what the world would be like without them
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 21:40:05 GMT 1
After seeing the skeletons, that were people, and the piles of bodies,approx 6,000,000,there is no way we,and our children and grandchildren, should be allowed to forget.
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Post by tinkerbell on Jan 27, 2015 23:01:40 GMT 1
Should never be forgotten.How you can say there must be something wrong with the families beggars belief.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 23:32:59 GMT 1
Just because we are in the EU and it's unlikely to happen here, it doesn't mean that genocide doesn't happen somewhere else, Africa for example. I have a feeling you will be on your own BE, I respect what you're saying but can't agree. We shouldn't forget what inhumanities mankind can inflict on itself if we allow it. Sure the survivors will eventually pass away but haven't all the survivors of the Great War? So should we forget all about the World Wars?
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Post by lib on Jan 28, 2015 0:03:40 GMT 1
I have mixed feelings on this subject.
Yes we must remember ....... but has remembrance had any effect?
Firstly the National Holocaust day is relatively new. It is supposed to 'celebrate' and remember all the occaisions of Genocide from Rwanda, Kosovo, etc.
Hypocritically, to me, it does not include the Armenian Genocide. Politics again.
I grew up with evidence of the Holocaust around me. I lived in an area that is still today known as probably the most racially diverse part of the UK.
Nearly everybody around had somebody who had just returned rom the war. Probaly like most of my generation you will remember how very few were willing to talk about their experiences, certainly no tales of 'derring do'. My Dad said the people returning from the First war were the same.
As kids we were told never to ask about markings (tattoos) on some peoples arms and wrists, the camps were a taboo subject. When we grew older and time passed tales emerged, usually brought up after funerals and discussed by the 'old' folk.
People certainly did remember but it was not public thing, more lots of individual tragedies, that happened to to ordinary families.
I don't think one needs a special day to remember the inhumanity of people, when inhumanity and genocide is happening daily.
rambling now so will shut up
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 0:24:46 GMT 1
I can't believe you said that BE. Have you ever been to a concentration camp to see what it looks like, because we have and its not nice. We should never forget what has happened to those poor people. We remember the 1st World War and the 2nd. So what is wrong with remembering the Holocaust. It is a reminder to all of us and future generations.
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Post by littlemouse on Jan 28, 2015 9:11:16 GMT 1
I don't like the coverage that has been foisted upon the screens, but have made one concession as it is the 70th anniversary and likely to be the last.There seems to be a sense of playing politics with this anniversary though, more having to be seen doing the right thing by being there then anything else.
There are other anniversaries that have been totally overlooked like the 10th of february 1940 when million and a half poles were deported by the Russians east and resettled in what would be now called gulags.But then the west were/are to scared to say anything about their end of the war allies.
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Post by littlemouse on Jan 28, 2015 9:38:32 GMT 1
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Post by JohnP on Jan 28, 2015 9:45:44 GMT 1
What happened during the two world wars was so horrendous that most who were involved never spoke of it but it affected many of their lives forever in some way or another. I strongly believe that it is the memory and rememberance that has some way contributed to the relative peace our generation has enjoyed. Many agreements and rules applied in the armistice have contributed to that.
Unfortunately there will always be wars somewhere. When there is evil like the I.S. something has to be done to control it's spread but I hope that regular reminders of the true horror of war will always have it's part in at least making politicians think twice and work that much harder to negociate before taking up arms to solve disputes between nations.
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