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Post by Ali on Jul 3, 2013 6:51:28 GMT 1
What about a Summer fuel allowance? Now that did make me smile
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Post by Cheeky Chops on Jul 3, 2013 8:47:23 GMT 1
Well why not a Summer fuel allowance. How much are electric fans these days.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2013 9:21:57 GMT 1
OK, so using that logic we should not receive our state pensions then if we emigrate? winter fuel allowance is an add on not a right,a pension is a right not an add on.If you want every benefit going stop in the UK. Well it must have been a right up to now,or we wouldn't have been getting it.Are we not able to comment about anything,without being told we should stop in the UK. This is a forum,for us to share out thoughts.
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Post by JohnP on Jul 3, 2013 9:59:13 GMT 1
My feelings on this subject are that the winter fuel allowance should be income related. One of the benefits of being in the EU is freedom of choice as to where you live. It seems crazy to me that a person on a £100.000 a year pension should receive winter fuel allowance, while those who have chosen to live elsewhere in the EU having paid into the UK system most or all of their working lives and are now struggling to make ends meet because of the exchange rate brought about by incompetent greedy bankers and an equally incompetent government who have totally failed resolve the resulting economic situation, should now lose what to many, is an important aid to keeping warm through increasingly long cold winters
The fact that Osborne thinks that winters are warmer in Brittany than southern England just adds to my opinion of his ignorance, incompetence and stupidity. As usual it is a case of the rich get richer and those on lower incomes who are struggling most, pay the price.
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Post by Cheeky Chops on Jul 3, 2013 10:25:07 GMT 1
In the UK a fuel allowance is based on the temperature. The same could easily be done for each persons area of where they live given the technology we have.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2013 11:14:53 GMT 1
In the UK a fuel allowance is based on the temperature. The same could easily be done for each persons area of where they live given the technology we have. I think the temperature related benefit is an additional "cold weather" payment. The winter fuel allowance is a seperate benefit. I haven't bothered to claim my fuel allowance, even though I'm over 60 but less than pension age I could. I manage, it's a struggle at times but I manage. My feelings on the matter are much the same as JohnP, it should be means tested. I also abhor the fact that those on high private pensions (retired bankers, ex government ministers etc) can and do claim it. I suppose it helps them heat their mansions.
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Post by littlemouse on Jul 3, 2013 11:47:46 GMT 1
Well it must have been a right up to now,or we wouldn't have been getting it.Are we not able to comment about anything,without being told we should stop in the UK. This is a forum,for us to share out thoughts.[/quote]
As this is a forum I have the right to think, stop in the Uk if you want all the extras that go with living in the UK. Wanting your cake and eat it springs to mind.You chose to leave even if your reasons were valid.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2013 11:52:58 GMT 1
My feelings on this subject are that the winter fuel allowance should be income related. One of the benefits of being in the EU is freedom of choice as to where you live. It seems crazy to me that a person on a £100.000 a year pension should receive winter fuel allowance, while those who have chosen to live elsewhere in the EU having paid into the UK system most or all of their working lives and are now struggling to make ends meet because of the exchange rate brought about by incompetent greedy bankers and an equally incompetent government who have totally failed resolve the resulting economic situation, should now lose what to many, is an important aid to keeping warm through increasingly long cold winters The fact that Osborne thinks that winters are warmer in Brittany than southern England just adds to my opinion of his ignorance, incompetence and stupidity. As usual it is a case of the rich get richer and those on lower incomes who are struggling most, pay the price. Totally agree with BC earlier post and also with John p post.
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Post by JohnP on Jul 3, 2013 13:46:06 GMT 1
Well it must have been a right up to now,or we wouldn't have been getting it.Are we not able to comment about anything,without being told we should stop in the UK. This is a forum,for us to share out thoughts. As this is a forum I have the right to think, stop in the Uk if you want all the extras that go with living in the UK. Wanting your cake and eat it springs to mind.You chose to leave even if your reasons were valid.[/quote] You of course have an absolute right to your opinion. I would say in response however, that a system which doles out free healthcare to anyone and everyone, that pays billions in benefits to fraudsters and illegal immigrants who have paid absolutely nothing into the system should surely not deprive those of us who paid in all our working lives and choose to legally live in another member state. A French citizen over 60 who is a permanent resident in the UK would qualify for the allowance so why shouldn't a UK resident living in France. What you have in the UK is a government that discriminates against it's own people choosing soft and easy targets because it has neither the willpower or the capability to sort out the huge mess created by itself and the other previous worthless bunch of idiots.
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Post by judith on Jul 3, 2013 16:05:49 GMT 1
I'm not a pensioner, so I have just checked out the amount of the winter fuel allowance. £200 is not a fortune, in fact to someone like me it's hardly anything, so maybe I can see why those who make these decisions don't really understand or care. £200 is roughly the cost of a return flight or ferry trip back to the UK, so maybe people will be able to make one less journey home a year. So what? I'm not being flippant here, just trying to show the attitude of those not affected by the cut in the WFA for expats. Is it really such a big deal?
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