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Post by JohnP on Mar 11, 2012 10:20:20 GMT 1
OK this one is controversial but I defend my right to have an opinion.
I am not particularly religious these days but I am a Christian and I find same sex marriage one step too far. I have been brought up in a society where I have been forced to accept open gay behavior and whilst I am happy to respect everyone's right to behave as they choose within the law, I object to having to accept the modern "in your face behavior"
It seems to me that a small minority group of gay activists have been able to force the majority to recognise gay partnerships, same sex parentage and now they want to desecrate the sanctity of marriage. A step too far in my opinion. Where do we go next? is it going to be compulsory to be gay?
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Post by Elkay on Mar 11, 2012 11:06:04 GMT 1
I have to say that on this subject I totally disagree with you, John. I don't see what religion has to do with it at all. When I was young and went to confirmation classes we were taught by a pleasant young Curate. The Rector, however, was a bad tempered, whisky swilling man who lived with a male 'housekeeper'. This was during the early sixties so homosexuality was still illegal in England. I assume it was this fact that made him secretive and short tempered - and he only visited those houses where he would be offered whisky.
Wouldn't it have been better for the poor man to have been able to openly declare his love for another man? The whole experience put me off religion for life - there was so much deceit and so much evidence of double standards in that parish!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2012 11:20:16 GMT 1
I admit the idea of gay marriage does grate with me and my reasons for feeling this way are a bit cloudy. If you take the Church out of the equation,there is no real reason to be against it I suppose,but even so I still feel uneasy with it.
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Post by judith on Mar 11, 2012 11:27:57 GMT 1
I agree with JohnP it's the modern "in your face behaviour" that is the problem. It really doesn't matter what people get up to, as long as they don't make an exhibition of themselves and force others to endure it. Trouble is, facebook and the like don't help where everyone's exploits are laid bare.
We have children at school with "Mummy 1" and "Mummy 2." That I find very strange, but I am not sure the future generation really takes much notice?
Elkay and BritChick, it's always far more complicated when religion is involved, isn't it?
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Post by JohnP on Mar 11, 2012 11:40:42 GMT 1
A man can declare his love for another man or women for women in today's society, I have no problem with that and it has nothing to do with religion but surely marriage is the joining of a man and a woman in the eyes of God whichever your God happens to be and that should remain sacred for the purpose it was created.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2012 11:58:20 GMT 1
If you have a civil ceremony then religion isnĀ“t a factor I think.I had a register office marriage second time around and now am married in the eyes of the law but not a God.which for me is not a problem as I have no religious faith.
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Post by wibble on Mar 11, 2012 13:16:49 GMT 1
great a debate However its one I really don't have much opinion on, each to their own, as long as you're happy and all that. Not a big fan of the in "yer face behaviour" from whatever sexual direction you come, from but that's probably me being more of an introvert character than extrovert ?? Whilst I can see Johns point of view with church marriage being a special thing between man and woman. All couple should have the same rights legally. I do find some of the churches approach to things a bit strange with gay clergy, paedophile priests and especially the catholic church who offer advice so strongly to couples on their sex lives, families etc etc and yet these are matter on which they do not have any experience of ?? let the debate continue and I think both me and John know which local nightclub to avoid ;D
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2012 14:28:21 GMT 1
All priests should be married,if they have had no sexual experience or family life they are in no position to advise
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Post by Elkay on Mar 11, 2012 14:56:19 GMT 1
That'll be the Starman club in Gourin then, Wibble?
It's fame has spread far and wide, but I have never been there, honest! A couple of my gay friends have been there, though.
I agree re long may the debate continue!
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Post by JohnP on Mar 11, 2012 16:07:02 GMT 1
I don't live in Gourin Wibble, I live in Guiscriff. Never heard of the Starman. I remember there used to be a pub in Exeter with a certain reputation called the Acorn but everyone stuck a "G" in front of that.
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