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Post by lif on Apr 25, 2010 15:27:56 GMT 1
I see the BNP have over three hundred candidates standing for election, and a cracking manifesto. It will be interesting to see how they get on. Take a look at the manifesto, and you might be surprised. bnp.org.uk/
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Post by lib on Apr 25, 2010 17:11:18 GMT 1
In reply to the question what do the BNP want, simples (click).
Exactly what all politicians want........Power.
The best way to achieve this is by playing on peoples fears and showing a way to alleviate them.
Once achieved retention of power is by maintaining fears, if needed manufacture them.
Please look at all politicians and their statements if this is not self obvious.
Whilst I am a staunch believer in the kindness of strangers, I never apply this to people who have all the answers to my problems if only I will first do something for them.
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Post by lif on Apr 25, 2010 17:51:30 GMT 1
In reply to the question what do the BNP want, simples (click). Exactly what all politicians want........Power. The best way to achieve this is by playing on peoples fears and showing a way to alleviate them. Once achieved retention of power is by maintaining fears, if needed manufacture them. Please look at all politicians and their statements if this is not self obvious. Whilst I am a staunch believer in the kindness of strangers, I never apply this to people who have all the answers to my problems if only I will first do something for them. I think the difference with the BNP is that they actually have a solution to the Islamic threat, and that’s puling the forces out of wars that have nothing to do with us, and keeping them out. As you say manufactured fears give power to governments, and labor got involved with the Easton wars with the full backing of the cons, I wonder why?
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Post by lib on Apr 25, 2010 17:53:53 GMT 1
I have just spent a lot of time writing a post and have scrapped it all.
My thoughts on the subject of the BNP and their ilk, are indirectly coloured by my father.
I only once saw him involved in a violent incident; it involved injustice and bigotry. He was the quietest of men, with a droll sense of humour.
After he died I was to find documents and be told by family members that he, along with his best friends, had been involved in violent street fighting both in Manchester and London. Decade or so before I was born.
Their opponents, a certain Mr Oswald Mosely and his Brown Shirts.
Always sorry I never had the chance to talk to him about it, but at least he taught me the value of tolerance.
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Post by lif on Apr 25, 2010 18:08:09 GMT 1
I have just spent a lot of time writing a post and have scrapped it all. My thoughts on the subject of the BNP and their ilk, are indirectly coloured by my father. I only once saw him involved in a violent incident; it involved injustice and bigotry. He was the quietest of men, with a droll sense of humour. After he died I was to find documents and be told by family members that he, along with his best friends, had been involved in violent street fighting both in Manchester and London. Decade or so before I was born. Their opponents, a certain Mr Oswald Mosely and his Brown Shirts. Always sorry I never had the chance to talk to him about it, but at least he taught me the value of tolerance. Sir Oswald Ernald Mosley was a fascist, and your farther was correct in opposing him, fascist states tend to do what Hitler did i.e. invade other countries. Just like we are doing now. The BNP advocate ‘not’invadinge other countries. So I can’t see the parallel myself.
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Post by lib on Apr 25, 2010 18:14:03 GMT 1
No, Lif, I can't see the direct parallel either.
It's just a feeling I am getting when listening to conversations ref the BNP and their policies.
Or rather the interpretations / mis-interpretations I am hearing of their policies.
Apologies if I have gone off topic.
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Post by lif on Apr 25, 2010 18:27:05 GMT 1
No, Lif, I can't see the direct parallel either. It's just a feeling I am getting when listening to conversations ref the BNP and their policies. Or rather the interpretations / mis-interpretations I am hearing of their policies. Apologies if I have gone off topic. Not at all, no apologies necessary, this is just a subject that has my attention, I am not a member of the BNP, nor am I likely to be so with withdrawal from the EU as one of the key stone policies. I do after all live in France due to the UK being in the EU. But do take the time to read the BNP’s manifesto, it’s got a lot of good stuff in it that I do like.
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Post by jackie on Apr 26, 2010 15:30:35 GMT 1
I wouldn't trust the BNP one bit! After all didn't the National Socialist Party in Germany become powerful in the 1930's by adopting popular policies? The lessons of history & all that! Bof!
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Post by lif on Apr 26, 2010 16:08:09 GMT 1
I wouldn't trust the BNP one bit! After all didn't the National Socialist Party in Germany become powerful in the 1930's by adopting popular policies? The lessons of history & all that! Bof! Indeed it did, and if Hitler as a corporal hadn’t overridden his Generals, we would all be typing in German now. But we have a safeguard against such things happening in the UK, the army swears its allegiance to the queen, and not parliament. Having said that, it didn’t stop Mr. Blare from entering into an illegal war in the east did it?
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Post by Cheeky Chops on Apr 26, 2010 17:55:20 GMT 1
It is easy for the BNP to make up policies that people like as they are never going to get into power. At least I hope not. And ditto to Libs posting.
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