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Post by JohnP on Nov 4, 2015 21:28:12 GMT 1
My Parents, and I am sure those of many others here fought against the evil of the Nazi idealism in the second world war. Please don't compare that with what is happening here. Our parents, Grandparents, fought the evil of the Nazi regime to protect and secure what we all in western Europe enjoy now. freedom!
I have watched over the last decades everything they fought for being destroyed and signed away by Politicians of various parties to the point we are at today. There is now a serious threat from another invasion of Europe, not from tanks and armies but through stealth, the technology of mobile phones and social media. Has nobody noticed that while many of these so called refugees have no baggage, no wives, no children but all have expensive smartphones using them to tell their friends and relatives how to slide across the boarders un-noticed. This is an invasion with out a declaration of war and the politicians are either to engrossed in filling out their fraudelent expense claims to notice or to stupid to realise what is happening
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2015 22:53:14 GMT 1
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Post by littlemouse on Nov 4, 2015 22:59:45 GMT 1
oh give it rest jp, like I said before you take with you what you can carry.It costs nothing to have an expensive phone on contract.That phone might have all his or hers family details on it banque accounts etc.
What is this forum if not social media.Mobile phones are here to stay bet you have one in the car.
As for your rant about the war less said the better.
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Post by JohnP on Nov 5, 2015 8:19:36 GMT 1
OK I'll give it a rest. You cannot have a discussion when your opinion is slated by others who offer no alternative to the problem. I put my opinion forward at the beginning of this thread, I gave my reasons and as far as I know I still have a right to hold that opinion. I asked a question about where all the funding is coming from to provide for the needs of all these people. Whilst quick to attack my beliefs, no one has answered my question.
I will give it a rest because the "discussion" is becoming close to a slanging match which benefits no one. I will go away but the problem won't (in my opinion)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 9:23:35 GMT 1
OK I'll give it a rest. You cannot have a discussion when your opinion is slated by others who offer no alternative to the problem. I put my opinion forward at the beginning of this thread, I gave my reasons and as far as I know I still have a right to hold that opinion. An opinion is defined by Dictionary.com as "a belief or judgement that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty" and "a personal view, attitude or appraisal". Opinionated on the other hand is defined as "obstinate or conceited with regard to the merit of one's own opinions; conceitedly dogmatic". You have every right to have an opinion JohnP. That's partly how a democracy works. A European democracy works by electing politicans to represent their constituents in parliament. My opinion of politicians isn't that far removed from yours, however what is the alternate? Would you like an autocratic dictatorship? We all have our opinions and I'm pleased to read them. I will also post my own opinions in the hope that others will read those. But lets not be opinionated which is where it becomes a 'slanging match'.
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Post by jackie on Nov 5, 2015 13:33:55 GMT 1
I'm afraid if you are going to air an opinion you have to accept it may be challenged otherwise keep it to yourself. Also lets not forget WE are immigrants too, bet lots of us have taken advantage of the excellent medical system here which we haven't contributed anything to as lots of us aren't economically active. We came here for a better life, how can you criticise others wanting to do the same? It's not as if the UK is a war zone where it's government is barrel bombing it's own citizens like Syria is. Anyway for those worried (like that ridiculous chap in the video) about being all your women being raped then being stabbed in your beds by evil muslims this article makes interesting reading: www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/refugee-crisis-german-man-takes-in-24-asylum-seekers-and-describes-his-disappointing-experience-a6722146.html
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 13:41:01 GMT 1
OK I'll give it a rest. You cannot have a discussion when your opinion is slated by others who offer no alternative to the problem. I put my opinion forward at the beginning of this thread, I gave my reasons and as far as I know I still have a right to hold that opinion. I asked a question about where all the funding is coming from to provide for the needs of all these people. Whilst quick to attack my beliefs, no one has answered my question. I will give it a rest because the "discussion" is becoming close to a slanging match which benefits no one. I will go away but the problem won't (in my opinion) Unfortunately johnp whilst the Tree Huggers continue to sleep walk into the destruction of Europe and only glean information from the highly censored media then you can do no more. At least when your grandchildren ask you why we let it happen you can say YOU tried but nobody would listen.
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Post by littlemouse on Nov 5, 2015 15:07:46 GMT 1
"only glean information from the highly censored media" .Like the knights Templers for instance.
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Post by littlemouse on Nov 5, 2015 15:25:52 GMT 1
I have a solution for you.
To redeem the money that it will cost to rehouse the very few refugees that we (the uk government)take in. All money paid ( pensions etc) to people living outside the United Kingdom will be stopped.Further more all their Uk assets will be siezed.The money saved will be used to help young refugees set up home and businesses which will benefit the uk population as a whole as they will be spending their money in the uk thus boosting home consumption.By doing this, the government at one stroke not only saves on pension payments but on healthcare, which in the retired population costs an absolute fortune, as there are more retirees abroad then refugees entering the country an augmentation in MP's salaries and expenses can be expected.
Tongue in cheek of course but hay you want a solution.
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Post by jackie on Nov 5, 2015 18:25:51 GMT 1
'Unfortunately johnp whilst the Tree Huggers continue to sleep walk into the destruction of Europe and only glean information from the highly censored media then you can do no more'
So right wing propaganda sites are the real truth are they?
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