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Post by bisdu on Aug 30, 2014 11:46:30 GMT 1
Anon2 - I get what you are saying, and regarding the child I would have found myself agreeing with you until I discover (if it is true) that they are JW - but that's a personal past history and another story.
However you know it should be possible for posters to express conflicting opinions without being offensive ... or taking the hump...there is another forum available for that.
Yes, this forum is small but but definately not inconsequential to those who enjoy chatting with people they now regard as friends.
Seems to me we have the best of both worlds .. one forum to vent ones speen and give rubbish advice ......and another for healthy debate.
ps...this reply is partially in order to promote further opinion as i feel your repky might be the thin that stifles response
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Post by bisdu on Aug 30, 2014 11:47:54 GMT 1
erratum...ps...this reply is partially in order to promote further opinion as i feel your reply might be the thing that stifles response
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2014 12:14:42 GMT 1
I'm all for debate...though to term it aggressive slants it towards confrontational and if you look at the other place there's plenty of that. I don't think the other forum minds too much if a topic gets into 'flaming'. Every time someone logs onto their site it creates revenue, whether they are there to offer an alternate view or just spout bile because they can and be anonymous. To the best of my knowledge this forum generates no revenue so in one way, it matters little how many visit. If you have posts on contentious issues, quite rightly you will have people with divergent views. However if that leads to 'aggressive posts' it's possible that will stop other posters wanting to join in and if left unchecked, lead to them not visiting the forum. I don't know what number of subscribers are required to make this forum sustainable but I see it as a haven from the other one and not a place that I want to log on to and see the same same subjects argued and fought over.
It's a fine line to tread and police. The moderators on the other forum seem to have a strange idea of what to allow and what to delete. This thread began as a plea to help locate a boy and his parents because of concern over his welfare, not a debate over the moral and lawful ethics of their actions, maybe we should try and keep to that....
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Post by southpork on Aug 30, 2014 12:23:15 GMT 1
Absolutely agree that everyone has a right to a view, how that view is expressed is the issue. As Annon points out the topic itself provoked debate. However, in my opinion, aggressive confrontational responses serve to stifle such potential debate and the substance of the post becomes submerged in the acrimony that often follows.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2014 14:47:58 GMT 1
I haven't read the news articles about this, but from the pictures I've seen of the child,it would appear that he is mentally damaged.Religeous views aside,as a parent it must be devastating to sit by his bed and watch him die (if we are to believe the news) I can understand the parents wanting to take him somewhere and quietly live out his remaining time.Doctors don't necessarily know what is best for the soul,although they may for the body. Regarding the debate issue.....IMO it's healthy to air conflicting views. It doesn't have to turn into a slanging match or a name calling row.Angloinfo police their site with a rod of iron,discouraging healthy debate as well as the other variety.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2014 14:58:52 GMT 1
I was careful to state that Lm's post came across to me as aggressive, without being able to say whether it was to everyone, and went on to support it as furthering the debate, irrespective of its tone. It's implied that we should tolerate other people's posting style and let the moderators decide when a line has been crossed.
On every other forum I've been the simple rule not to attack an individual, but the views expressed by the individual, is upheld so when it starts getting personal the moderators step in. On this forum I'm not aware of any moderator intervention.
There's a few 'cosy club' members chipped in, seemingly unwilling to tolerate others. Not able to let what-they-see-as 'offensive' wash over them. I've had to do it many times, tolerate what-I-see-as numpties, so why can't they? Is it 'cos I'm more grown up?
This thread did not start off as a plea to locate a missing boy, sp. This thread threw up a story in the press. You suggest that perhaps we should confine ourselves to the search. There are several angles to the story. Why not give full vent to them all? Is it because we've got posts and debate coming out of our ears in other threads?
You all seem to cordially invite 'argumentative' posters to go to AI. I say you can't afford to let posters go to AI, not a single one.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2014 15:08:27 GMT 1
I missed the deleted post, so can only comment on what is left.I don't think I suggested 'argumentative' posters to go to AI.there wouldn't be much point as their posts wouldnt last long!As for moderation here,there hasn't been the need, that I'm aware of, or maybe I just missed the nasties?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2014 15:13:46 GMT 1
Our posts crossed BC. My 'argumentative' comment didn't include you, cos I hadn't seen your post.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2014 15:15:47 GMT 1
Our posts crossed BC. My 'argumentative' comment didn't include you, cos I hadn't seen your post. Ah I see,well back to sausage making I think!
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Post by littlemouse on Aug 30, 2014 15:31:15 GMT 1
I read the article before posting something and was appalled at the sanctimonious rubbish being spouted by said article.Not knowing the full facts,and probably never will,I asked a couple of questions which had passed through my mind,if the questions are uncomfortable then so be it.As to chasing a family all over europe on social media without all the facts,amounts to a virtual lynching.
If you don't like my style of writing then thats your problem not mine.
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