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Post by newsround on Feb 7, 2013 9:23:00 GMT 1
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Post by JohnP on Feb 7, 2013 10:03:00 GMT 1
In my opinion for what it's worth, this sort of thing happens as a result of under staffing, underfunding and putting pen pushing accountants who have no experience of health care in charge.
The Matron used to be in charge of a hospital having worked her/his way to that position through the ranks gaining years of experience on the wards. That not only ensured that the Matron was "hands on" and knew exactly what was going on, but had the respect of her staff.
Of course running a modern hospital needs good accountancy skills but the day to day control needs to be in the hands of a Matron with a committee of senior medical staff.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2013 10:18:04 GMT 1
Nurses do not nurse now! They do paper work and the Health Care assistants do the hands on care (or not in the case of Stafford hospital).It all started to fall apart when ,to become a nurse,you had to be so academic.Caring for people is in the soul not the brain!
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Post by kattie on Feb 7, 2013 10:20:38 GMT 1
My own personal opinion of the NHS is, quite frankly, unprintable.
In 2004 my father was in hospital (Ipswich) and was quite poorly. Me being me (nosy), I riffled through his notes one day and discovered he'd contracted MRSA. Queried with the "nurse" why we hadn't been told, only to have her then deny that he'd contracted MRSA...... at which point I pointed out the remarkably clear writing in his notes and her response was "oh. I didn't know". Dear old dad had no idea what was going on at the time but they had certainly made no effort to tell my mother! (And he wasn't even in isolation)
More recently, my sister was admitted to the same hospital - and that again was an administrative nightmare - the cancer ward didn't want her as she was a surgical patient, and the surgical ward didn't want her as she was a cancer patient!!!!!
Even my children have gone through countless traumas with blood tests (2 have a borderline blood clotting disorder) - and that was at Colchester, so I suppose I should consider myself lucky they got through it!!!!
Whatever happened to the "caring" profession?
Sorry - rant over....
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Post by littlemouse on Feb 7, 2013 10:45:39 GMT 1
As deplorable as the Stafford hospital is/was,I can't help thinking that this is part of a deliberate policy to bring in private medicine/health care.By letting hospitals degenerate,closing hospitals, less staff etc gives the impression that only private hospitals are the way forward.Much in the same way as private schooling has been instilled as the only way to go.
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Post by Bunty on Feb 7, 2013 16:28:39 GMT 1
I agree with all of you and I used to work for the NHS as a ward clerk for 13 years then progressed to Medical Records Manager for a Primary care Trust Hospital when I started I had 5 staff working under me but due to cuts and people leaving for other jobs and they did not get replaced no money apparently I ended up with 1. I left on ill health stress at work causing depression as i used to go to work at 7.00 am and leave at 7.00 pm with no lunch break as I was one of the caring ones who thought about the patients needs so when they were admitted or came for outpatient appointments all the information was in their notes
RANT OVER
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Post by lib on Feb 7, 2013 19:17:21 GMT 1
In answer to the question.
People allowed it to happen; then conspired to cover up what was happening.
Remember conspiracy may also happen by default, inactivity of the witnesses and inactivity by the listeners.
Remember the words of Pastor Niemoller .........
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Post by Cheeky Chops on Feb 8, 2013 22:06:10 GMT 1
Yea. All the German Guardy people said that they did not take responsibility as they were only following orders. No one speaks out because they want to keep their jobs. So much for Whistle-blowers policies. Bring back Matron and give her all the power.
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Post by lib on Feb 9, 2013 9:19:59 GMT 1
Ah, CC if we did bring back those well remembered Ladies, where would we find people with the compassion, moral authority, commanding presence, and common sense, in todays generation?
Whatever.
Keep your head down and keep taking the money, or if you are lucky get on the bandwagon of supply nursing.
ps Had to attend a hospital recently, several appointments, one nurse spent more time telling me about her holiday cottage in Cornwall and how she had negotiated a 3 day week on full time money so she can enjoy visiting it more often........
pps This is not a nursing thing it also is endemic in most Companies that I have experienced.
ppps. I await the report on Tameside hospital with interest, have had more than a few run ins with the staff there about the treatment of my MIL. Even won some of them.
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Post by lib on Feb 9, 2013 18:17:47 GMT 1
Don't think I have ever done a back to back post before.
I was thinking about this subject a little more with reference to experiences within our family to doing business with the NHS and the Care sector. My family have seen and remarked on the poor attitude and the number of people who have been promoted way way out of their level of competency. It always seemed that to 'promote' from within was driven mainly by 'let's give the job to one of us'. Whether or not the individual was up to it. Made for interesting pricing some authoritys were well known for being an easy touch and contractors / suppliers charged accordingly.
On a slightly different tack I was reminded that in a book from 1941 'The Managerial Revolution' it was propounded that in the future the 'OverLords' would no longer be Demagogues and Democrats but Managers and Bureaucrats.
Leads neatly into 1984 .......
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